Wednesday, August 29, 2007

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Tuesday, August 28, 2007

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Sunday, August 26, 2007

[Mormons and Evolution] Comment: "Amylase and the Power of Molecular Biology"

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Saturday, August 25, 2007

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Friday, August 24, 2007

[Mormons and Evolution] Comment: "The Failure of the Argument from Design"

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Monday, August 20, 2007

[Mormons and Evolution] Comment: "Creating Information"

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If anyone knows how I can contact Mark Butler, please let me know. He hasn't participated (that I have seen) in any online discussions for several months, so I suspect he may not read this post either.

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Saturday, August 18, 2007

[Mormons and Evolution] Comment: "The Failure of the Argument from Design"

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Friday, August 17, 2007

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Thursday, August 16, 2007

[Mormons and Evolution] Comment: "Amylase and the Power of Molecular Biology"

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Friday, August 10, 2007

[Mormons and Evolution] Comment: "Variant LDS Creationism"

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It looks like I didn't accidentally submit the first part of my comment after all. I must have simply deleted it.

I actually started my comment by saying I am confused that references to Genesis and Moses would be used in a discussion of physical creation. Brigham Young once said that Genesis chapter 1 is a description of the spiritual creation. I thought it was understood that Genesis 1 and Moses 2 describes the spiritual creation while Genesis 2 and Moses 3 describes the seventh day of physical creation. In other words, both Genesis and Moses skip the 6 days of physical creation and jump directly to the seventh day.

Something I read by a biblical scholar named William Whiston make this clear. He found that in Genesis 1, "Elohim" was translated to "God." After the first few verses of chapter 2, the combination of "Jehovah Elohim" was translated to "Lord God." This is confusing to William and other biblical scholars. To us it just means that Elohim had sole resposibility for the spiritual creation. The physical creation was a joint effort between Jehovah and Elohim. It is easy to find where the discussion of the spiritual creation ends and the physical creation starts. Just look for the first occurance of "Lord God."

This is consistent with Abraham 3 &amp; 4, which only describes the physical creation. In Genesis it says that God created the spirit world. In Abraham it says the Gods (plural) created the physical world. "Gods" is just a short cut for saying Lord God, or in the original, Jehovah Elohim.

In the comment I accidentally deleted, I went on to discuss D&amp;C 77:12, which is now in my previous comment. Notice that D&amp;C 77:12 is consistent with Genesis 2 and Moses 3 in saying that Adam was created on the seventh day of physical creation.

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[Mormons and Evolution] Comment: "Variant LDS Creationism"

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I accidentally submitted my last comment without finishing. I was just saying that D&amp;C 77:12 is not a case of God telling Joseph one thing and Moses another. It was actually refering to the physical creation, in which Adam was place upon the earth on the seventh day as opposed to the spiritual creation in which he was place upon the spirit earth on the sixth day.

One interesting point that is almost always missed in this verse has to do with the earth being sanctified on the seventh day of physical creation. God compares it with the earth being sanctified during the Millenium. We can assume that any attribute of the sanctified earth during the Millenium would apply to the sanctified earth on the seventh day of physical creation. One attribute is that there will be no death during the Millenium. In other words, the condition of deathlessness among living things was not introduced until the earth was sanctified on the seventh day. Prehistoric life could have lived and died for billions of years.

Sorry about the break in my comments. If have more to say, but I will wait until I know someone reads this before I add anything more.

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